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Author Topic: FIAT FIRE 1.2 16V - 1.4 16V head mod  (Read 18072 times)
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2009, 11:05:36 PM »

   
do not to understand. You are obliged us diagram camshaft.   
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2009, 09:53:45 AM »

Acki strafe is grose in Germany look on limit speed.
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2009, 02:47:44 PM »

cvaj penzioneren grose erakcion.. sehen, wie der schreibt.

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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2009, 07:49:37 PM »

cvaj penzioneren grose erakcion.. sehen, wie der schreibt.

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« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2009, 10:10:54 PM »

Acki strafe is grose in Germany look on limit speed.

I didn't drove in this video because I had shift faster... and drove faster :D

Ups... cam timings... fuck. I will organize!
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2009, 10:58:19 PM »

glava je kod tebe doktore Maljak. JAvi sto ocekivati iz nje s modifikacijom.
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2009, 12:14:00 PM »

na toj kvadaraturi motora, uz male izmjene oblika pocekta kanala, i korekcija tvornickog odljevka, kanali u std izvedbi su dovoljni za raspon okretaja do 7800rpm, iako kanali izgledaju sicusno, kvadratura je mala pa kalkulacija pokazuje tako! neznam koliko ima mesa sa strane ali jako malim pomakom, mogu napraviti raspon do 9000rpm da jos uvjek ventil prati! ali ako hocu na do 10000rpm, usisni ventil mora ici veci, morat cu izmijeriti dali stane veci! Zanimljiva glava!

koji je omjer klipnjaca hod?  

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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2009, 03:26:10 PM »

ako puno ne pita dotjeraj taj dio pik 9
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« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2009, 03:52:33 PM »

mislis na raspon do 9000rpm! ako je pik na 8000rpm, raspon je cca do 9000rpm!
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« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2009, 02:19:07 PM »

Dakle

hod radilice 1,1 sohc 71,5mm provrt 70mm
hod radilice 1,2 dohc 78,8mm provrt 70,5mm

duzina klipnjace centar centar od 1.1 sohc motora 112mm  
duzina klipnjace centar centar od 1.2 dohc motora 128mm

Dakle kombinacija moze samo glava dohc na blok 1.1 sohc.
Drugo samo uz ozbiljne intervencije.

da bi se motor 1.2 pretvorio u 1.1 potrebno je kupiti nove klipnjace za 6mm duze sto daje mnogo bolje performanse na visim okretajima.

performanse 1.1 dohc koverzije su brutalen u niskim okretajima dok na visim su katastrifalne.

dakle 1.1 ima odnos 1.56:1
1.2 ima nesto povolniji odnos 1.62 za vise okrretaje.

Modofikacije bloka 1.1 sohc 7+1 rupa
Potrebno probusiti 7 novih rupa za vodu + jedna modificiran za podmazivivanje - ulje za glavu.
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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2009, 10:33:30 AM »

1.4 16V Panda 100hp engine:
Inlet 2°/42° -> 224°
Outlet 34°/2° -> 216°

Lift 84 mm
Bore 72 mm

Rods same as 1.2 16V has.

1.2 16V Lancia Y engine:
Inlet 2°/42° -> 224°
Outlet 26°/6° -> 212°

Lift 78,86 mm
Bore 70,80 mm

Pistons:

compressions height   28
valve pockets    1
valve pockets    1,5
dish (?) depth    5,7
dish dia    60
pistonLENGTH    48
pin 18x53
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« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2010, 03:03:46 PM »

Los izbor ali Najjeftinija konverzija mjenjanje zapremine iz 1.2l u 1.1l je ubacivanje kosuljica - manji promjer klipa.

Najkvalitenija konverzija je zamjena radilice od 1.1l i duza klipnjaca i puno bolje karakteristike u srednjim i visim okretajima.

Klipnjace custom za 1.2 16V  H profil 350 e set
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« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2010, 09:53:31 PM »

evo da se i ja oglasim ovdje
zbog niza okolnosti sam bio primoran sloziti 1.1 16v fire motor..klasa mi je do 1150!
vozim OSV u BIH gdje je klasa 1 do 1150ccm
proucavajuci malo forume...malo korisne informacije..uz Zeljkove savjete..krenuo sam u taj famozni projekat fire 1.1 16v
evo auto radi..pali..vozi..funkcionira..sve normalno!!bilo je jako puno prepravki..mozganja..razmisljanja..probavanja...mjerenja..ali je uspjelo!!
auto je jako zivahan..vrti se linearno do nekih 7500rpm
uz pomoc tokara..glodara..cnc stroja..autodate sam sebi olaksao stvar!!
hvala barbi na savjetima..hvala Maljku na savjetima oko glave!!!nisam imao vremena da mu posaljem glavu
sad mi samo fali jedan dobar usis 4 letpira i da neki SA ECU to sve dirigira!!
predstaviti cu auto u projektima cim naucim staviti slike na forum!!
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2010, 05:46:48 AM »

Hvala tebi, samo naprijed.
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